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'''TG300B mode''' is a feature on some [[Yamaha XG]] devices that provides unofficial compatibility with [[Roland GS]] (i.e. the [[Roland SC-55|SC-55]]). It also provides some compatibility with the [[Roland SC-88]].
'''TG300B mode''' is a feature on some [[Yamaha XG]] devices, especially the [[Yamaha MU series]], that provides unofficial compatibility with [[Roland GS]] (i.e. the [[Roland SC-55|SC-55]]). It also provides some compatibility with the [[Roland SC-88]].


Yamaha do not document what GS features are supported beyond the list of patches. In testing, it seems to support a substantial number of GS System Exclusive messages, among others:
Yamaha do not document what GS features are supported beyond the list of patches. In testing, it seems to support a substantial number of GS System Exclusive messages, among others:
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Like the [[Roland SC-55]], the patch set for TG300B mode includes [[Roland CM-64]] compatibility banks. Unlike the SC-55, many XG devices also offer a specific CM-64-compatible mode ([[C/M mode]]).
Like the [[Roland SC-55]], the patch set for TG300B mode includes [[Roland CM-64]] compatibility banks. Unlike the SC-55, many XG devices also offer a specific CM-64-compatible mode ([[C/M mode]]).
See also [[:Category:TG300B mode devices]].


== Name ==
== Name ==


The name refers to the [[Yamaha TG300]]'s similar "GM-B" mode, but this is a euphemism, presumably to avoid infringing on Roland's GS trademark. Yamaha's own manuals admit it "may not be able to play back TG300-specific song data with complete accuracy", but it is compatible with "MIDI data designed for ''other computer music tone generators''".<ref>[https://my.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/8/320948/MU80E1.pdf Yamaha MU80 Owner's Manual], page 34. Identical wording can be found in many other MU-series manuals.</ref> Also, whereas the TG300's GM-B mode only attempted to be compatible with the [[Roland SC-55]],<ref>This is suggested by comparing the patches in the TG300's ''Sound List & MIDI Data'' manual to the SC-55's.</ref> the TG300B mode provides compatibility with newer Sound Canvas devices, e.g. the [[Yamaha MU80]] TG300B patch list looks more like the [[Roland SC-88]]'s.<ref>Compare the patch list on page "7-10" onwards of the [http://cdn.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/SC-88_OM.pdf Roland SC-88 Owner's Manual] to the patch list on page 32 onwards of the [https://usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/9/320949/MU80E2.pdf Yamaha MU80 Sound List & MIDI Data manual].</ref>
The name refers to the [[Yamaha TG300]]'s similar "GM-B" mode, but this is a euphemism, presumably to avoid infringing on Roland's GS trademark. Yamaha's own manuals admit it "may not be able to play back TG300-specific song data with complete accuracy", but it is compatible with "MIDI data designed for other computer music tone generators".<ref>[https://my.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/8/320948/MU80E1.pdf Yamaha MU80 Owner's Manual], page 34. Identical wording can be found in many other MU-series manuals.</ref> Also, whereas the TG300's GM-B mode only attempted to be compatible with the [[Roland SC-55]],<ref>This is suggested by comparing the patches in the TG300's ''Sound List & MIDI Data'' manual to the SC-55's.</ref> the TG300B mode provides compatibility with newer Sound Canvas devices, e.g. the [[Yamaha MU80]] TG300B patch list looks more like the [[Roland SC-88]]'s.<ref>Compare the patch list on page "7-10" onwards of the [http://cdn.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/SC-88_OM.pdf Roland SC-88 Owner's Manual] to the patch list on page 32 onwards of the [https://usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/9/320949/MU80E2.pdf Yamaha MU80 Sound List & MIDI Data manual].</ref>
 
After a firmware upgrade, the [[Yamaha MU1000|MU1000]] and [[Yamaha MU2000|MU2000]]'s TG300B modes officially became GS modes.


== References ==
== References ==

Latest revision as of 01:22, 14 September 2024

TG300B mode is a feature on some Yamaha XG devices, especially the Yamaha MU series, that provides unofficial compatibility with Roland GS (i.e. the SC-55). It also provides some compatibility with the Roland SC-88.

Yamaha do not document what GS features are supported beyond the list of patches. In testing, it seems to support a substantial number of GS System Exclusive messages, among others:

  • GS Reset (switches to TG300B mode)[1]
  • Editing the reverb and chorus (type, rate, delay, feedback level, etc)[1]
  • Per-part controller mappings, including LFOs[1]
  • Per-part voice editing (e.g. adjusting filter cutoff)[1]
  • Drum setup editing (e.g. reverb level for drums)[1]

Like the Roland SC-55, the patch set for TG300B mode includes Roland CM-64 compatibility banks. Unlike the SC-55, many XG devices also offer a specific CM-64-compatible mode (C/M mode).

See also Category:TG300B mode devices.

Name

The name refers to the Yamaha TG300's similar "GM-B" mode, but this is a euphemism, presumably to avoid infringing on Roland's GS trademark. Yamaha's own manuals admit it "may not be able to play back TG300-specific song data with complete accuracy", but it is compatible with "MIDI data designed for other computer music tone generators".[2] Also, whereas the TG300's GM-B mode only attempted to be compatible with the Roland SC-55,[3] the TG300B mode provides compatibility with newer Sound Canvas devices, e.g. the Yamaha MU80 TG300B patch list looks more like the Roland SC-88's.[4]

After a firmware upgrade, the MU1000 and MU2000's TG300B modes officially became GS modes.

References

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 Tested by hikari_no_yume on a Yamaha CBX-K1XG.
  2. Yamaha MU80 Owner's Manual, page 34. Identical wording can be found in many other MU-series manuals.
  3. This is suggested by comparing the patches in the TG300's Sound List & MIDI Data manual to the SC-55's.
  4. Compare the patch list on page "7-10" onwards of the Roland SC-88 Owner's Manual to the patch list on page 32 onwards of the Yamaha MU80 Sound List & MIDI Data manual.

See also